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of votes in 2008 by a lot of votes that were not just -- >> that is so. but clinton did quite well but only because ross perot was running. very complicated. in terms of it being a national figure, someone reaching across the aisle, you haven't seen that. one of the things that h.w. did while he was in office, he he cut a budget deal raising some taxes with some republican support. >> and that's what made his legacy as a one-term president. >> and that's what killed him. but he was at that turning point when conservatives were no longer willing to accept that. conservatives didn't complain so much earn him. so things were changing the the point being we've moved on from that period in which you can have that sen trit government leadership. >> views have changed. it does look like we could be headed over the cliff. we don't have much time left. we'll see retroactively if that allows for a deal to be reached. >> yes. >> tim stanley, going through all of this with us. an author, as well. >> merry christmas. >> and to you. >>> now, former u.s. president is. >> intensive care at a houston hospit
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